[LinuxUsers] Puppet and Viper

[Brian Friday]

Yeah puppet was a choice made by individuals who are not me. Given how we are using it with about 300 hosts and already have 3 puppet "masters" I would say we are already having scaling issues. Not to mention puppet configuration release management issues etc. I suspect puppet was chosen because it was ruby and well ruby so "cool" in certain circles.

I will take a look at all mentioned below though sadly I think we are not yet close to "discovering" our scaling issues. Though not looking at scaling from the beginning would have been my first tip off... *sigh* 

- Brian



On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Pat O'Brien wrote:

> We used puppet to control about 800 servers for almost a year until we decided to cut our losses and move to a more scalable solution. We found puppet to be too flexible in certain places and not flexible enough in others. I've never used chef so I cannot really comment on how it works or the scalability of it but what we finally landed on was using etch (http://sourceforge.net/projects/etch/ http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/etch/wiki/Introduction).
> 
> We now manage a little under 2000 hosts in three separate data centers with etch without any issues with scalability, flexibility or manageability whatsoever.
> 
> We use etch in conjuction with nventory (http://sourceforge.net/projects/nventory/) and life is 1,000 times more easier now than it was when we were using puppet.
> 
> If you are looking into configuration management I would highly recommend at the very least checking out etch.
> 
> -pat
> 
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Charles Wyble <charles at thewybles.com> wrote:
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> On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Roger E. Rustad, Jr. wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I was just aware of the "Puppet vs CFEngine" debate, and was unaware of Chef...
>> 
>> http://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Home
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>> What made you switch?
> 
> Ah sorry I didn't include a link. Search for chef could take a while. :) 
> 
> It just seems to be much more elegant, and feels like the "right way to do things". 
> 
> Something akin to the RedHat vs Debian debate for me. Debian just does it right, where RH systems seem to have a lot of rough edges. 
> 
> Something something personal preference and operators I know preferring it, and there being recipes for everything. 
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